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HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« on: January 05, 2006, 12:36:28 am »

Hi all!
I am trying to build a server using Debian Sarge 3.1 r0a (downloaded using torrent debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso.torrent ) and now I'm don't is able to install it in a HP Proliant ML110. The Debian Sarge installer don't see the adaptec sata raid controller and don't is able to manage the disk. The HP Support only have Red Hat and Suse Enterprises Drivers. None for Debian Linux. I have tried for a long time when have decided to install other linux distribution based on Debian. I don't have success with Kurumin 5.0 and Knoppix but yesterday I have installed Ubuntu Linux (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/) with success in this HP.

Well, my question is:
1- How install Debian Sarge (I think that be a better option than derivates distributions) in Proliant ML110? Anybody can explain me how do this? Can I use any driver useful in Ubuntu Linux installation to install Debian Sarge?

Please help me. If I forgot any data do include in this message, please ask me.

Sorry my bad english but I hope to be understood.

Regards and Happy New Year for all,
Eduardo Garcia (Brazil)
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Re: HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2006, 08:23:09 pm »

1- How install Debian Sarge (I think that be a better option than derivates distributions) in Proliant ML110? Anybody can explain me how do this? Can I use any driver useful in Ubuntu Linux installation to install Debian Sarge?

Now that ubuntu installs, you can find out what driver it is using to access your sata raid..
With lspci you can find out wich devices are in your system. You should find the sata raid in this list.
With that info, we should be able to find out wich driver is being used and then we just have to find a way to install debian. (you might use an ubuntu live cd to do that, later on)

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Sorry my bad english but I hope to be understood.
Regards and Happy New Year for all,
Eduardo Garcia (Brazil)

No problem! Also a very happy new year to you, from Belgium!

cheers!
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Re: HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2006, 10:03:53 pm »

Hi,

We have the same issue - but with a Proliant DL320 (pizzabox)
The DL320 is a great machine - have used it dozens of times for Win2003 + ISA2004 servers
But time has come to install Linux on them (web application server)  Kiss

The SATA RAID Controller:
Intel® 82801FR Integrated Serial ATA Host Controller

you have to enable the RAID controller in the BIOS - and configure the RAID0/1 using the RAID controller BIOS by pressing CTRL-A (or  CTRL-Q on azerty keyboard) - it will be visible as 1 Logical Drive  (array = 1 logical disk in this case)
Windows 2003 will not recognize the RAID unless you load the appropriate driver (F6 during boot)
With Ubuntu I was able to see the 2 SATA disks as separate drives (hda hdb) !!  although they were build as 1 logical drive (raid1)

any tips on getting Debian installed on the RAID1 partition would be appreciated...


ps.. also greetings from belgium ;-)
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Re: HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2006, 07:50:56 am »

We have the same issue - but with a Proliant DL320 (pizzabox)
The DL320 is a great machine - have used it dozens of times for Win2003 + ISA2004 servers

Now it will be even greater Grin but you need to get it to work first.

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The SATA RAID Controller:
Intel® 82801FR Integrated Serial ATA Host Controller

Can you post us a "lspci -v" for the SATA controller?

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Windows 2003 will not recognize the RAID unless you load the appropriate driver (F6 during boot)
With Ubuntu I was able to see the 2 SATA disks as separate drives (hda hdb) !!  although they were build as 1 logical drive (raid1)

Ok, so you need an extra driver, since Ubuntu didn't work (do you know what kernel it was using?) let's hope it's in the newest kernel.  Can you have a look on http://wiki.debian.org/ServerHardware and see if the "workarounds" mentioned there help you any further? Especially the part that says "use at your own risk"..  Wink

Can you keep us posted on this?

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ps.. also greetings from belgium ;-)

Nice, it's a very small world after all Grin

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Re: HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2006, 10:57:31 am »


Windows 2003 will not recognize the RAID unless you load the appropriate driver (F6 during boot)
With Ubuntu I was able to see the 2 SATA disks as separate drives (hda hdb) !!  although they were build as 1 logical drive (raid1)

oh my....

you're a lucky one Wink
SATA Raid is a pain in the ass with linux.

1. Sata Raids arent hardware raids. they just ordinary software raids, where the driver does all the work. some cards like the promise act as accelerator.
2. you need a driver from the producer. this is mostly binary crap that only works with some distributions.

i have a great success story about the ML110 Wink
installed one ML110 more than a year ago with debian and a beta partial source driver from promise because they only support suse by default.
there never came a newer version ...
a few month ago one disc died.
i exchanged the disk and rebootet, raid 5 started rebuild.
after that i had a wonderful screwed system not even able to boot.


so my advice for SATA raids is:

use the SATA driver from the kernel.
then setup the disks as software raid.
even this can be tricky with debian because the software raid assistant of the debian installer has some problems SATA sometimes.
best way to do this is install without raid to a single disk.
after installation setup the second disk as part of a raid1 with one missing disk.(or raid 5 with min 2 disks and one missing)
configure your kernel to autoload softwareraid(compile it in or use initrd)
copy your whole system to the raid.
change your bootloader and fstab.
boot from the raid and hotadd the first disk.

sounds like much work, but
this is rocksteady based on solid driver, not some crappy binarys.
and you can do much more with it than most binary driver can.
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Re: HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2006, 05:20:06 pm »


well I'm not sure about the RAID controller being a software RAID...  but I wil check with HP to be sure...
(we can also connect to the raid via a simple boot cd (Bart PE) to make disk images)
anyway - you have to go into the BIOS (F9) and enable the RAID controller manually
the RAID controller BIOS will be active then and you need to create an array using the array controller bios software (CTRL-A)
to me it looks like a hardware raid ...

checked the type of the controller:
Adaptec embedded SATA Hostraid 1255
BIOS v3.0.1
looking through several forums it seems to be a ICH6R controller

have tried several flavors of Debian: stable sarge, Etch and unstable
none of them are able to identify the raid controller

I get unable to download kernel modules while using the Etch - but that could be because of the mirrors being in unstable mode due to the Etch v2 release coming (message on debian website??)

The only difference I get is using Ubuntu:
when the array is defined - I see both disks (which is actually very strange... as they should show as 1 logical drive in that case)

SCSI1 (sda) 80GB ATA Maxtor 6L080M0
SCSI2 (sdb) 80GB ATA Maxtor 6L080M0

using software raid would be a problem .... it's company rule not to use software raid configured in OS ....

would be nice if we could get this running.... its the first Linux server in a M$ box....
(and if I have to tell them its only capable of doing a software raid...........)

your help is appreciated !

(next post is the input of lspci)
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Re: HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2006, 05:22:48 pm »

as promised the complete output of LSPCI -v

HP Proliant DL320 with 2 SATA disks:
(and 2 onboard NICs)

0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. Server Memory Controller Hub (rev 05)
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 3200
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. Server Memory Controller Hub PCI Express Port (rev 05) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=0b, sec-latency=0
        Memory behind bridge: fdf00000-fdffffff
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 3201
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
        I/O ports at 1000 [size=32]

0000:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 3201
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
        I/O ports at 1020 [size=32]

0000:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 3201
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
        I/O ports at 1040 [size=32]

0000:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 3201
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
        I/O ports at 1060 [size=32]

0000:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 3201
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
        Memory at fbef0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
        I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00003fff
        Memory behind bridge: fbf00000-fdefffff
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03)
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 3201
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 7
        I/O ports at <ignored>
        I/O ports at <ignored>
        I/O ports at <ignored>
        I/O ports at <ignored>
        I/O ports at 0500 [size=16]

0000:00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corp. 82801FR/FRW (ICH6R/ICH6RW) SATA Controller (rev 03)
        Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 3206
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
        I/O ports at 1080
        I/O ports at 1088
        I/O ports at 1090
        I/O ports at 1098
        I/O ports at 10a0 [size=16]
        Memory at fbee0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: <available only to root>


0000:01:02.0 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated Lights Out Controller (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device b206
        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 7
        I/O ports at 2800 [size=256]
        Memory at fdef0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:01:02.2 System peripheral: Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated Lights Out  Processor (rev 01)
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device b206
        Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 5
        I/O ports at 3000 [size=256]
        Memory at fdee0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Memory at fded0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
        Memory at fde00000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:01:03.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation: Unknown device 001e
        Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 64
        Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        I/O ports at 3400 [size=256]
        Memory at fbff0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:05:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. PCI Bridge Hub A (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=05, secondary=06, subordinate=08, sec-latency=64
        Memory behind bridge: fdf00000-fdffffff
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:05:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. PCI Bridge Hub B (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=05, secondary=09, subordinate=0b, sec-latency=64
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation NC7782 Gigabit Server Adapter (PCI-X, 10,100,1000-T)
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 24
        Memory at fdff0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        Capabilities: <available only to root>

0000:06:01.1 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Compaq Computer Corporation NC7782 Gigabit Server Adapter (PCI-X, 10,100,1000-T)
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 25
        Memory at fdfe0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        Capabilities: <available only to root>
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Re: HP Prolian ML110 and a non-recognition of Adaptec SATA Controller
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2006, 05:37:18 pm »

when the array is defined - I see both disks (which is actually very strange... as they should show as 1 logical drive in that case)

SCSI1 (sda) 80GB ATA Maxtor 6L080M0
SCSI2 (sdb) 80GB ATA Maxtor 6L080M0

it this would be a hardwareraid, how should an os be able to see the disks?
think about it Wink

using software raid would be a problem .... it's company rule not to use software raid configured in OS ....

you should talk to the guy who bought this server, i think he did a mispurchase then.



http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/11/msg00785.html
seems like this should working.
try booting the installercd with 2.6 kernel.
if this not works go expert26 and load the ata_piix manual.

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